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De ceva vreme urmaresc pe internet un caz fierbinte.Un caz al unui incident petrecut pe data de 7 noiembrie 2006
Mai multi martori oculari (printre care si piloti) au observat un obiect rotund, metalic in aparenta care era stationar pe deasupra aeroportului international O'Hare din Chicago la orele 16:30 pe data de 7 noiembrie 2006.Obiectul a fost vizibil cateva minute cand dintr-odata Obiectul Zburator Neindentificat a acelerat la viteza incredibila lasand o gaura rotunda in portiunea norului unde OZNul stationase.

(http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i222069202_92272.jpg)
(o imagine a unui fenomen natural /2005, in Derbyshire, UK )

In websitul meu am pregatit o pagina acumuland foarte multe date despre acest incident.Informatii,surse,interviuri,video,imagini si chiar un sondaj de votare.Va rog sa urmariti acest caz si sa va expuneti aici parerea voastra.Link catre sursa pentru mai multe informatii al acestui caz:
http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=27457161

Tocmai am gasit si filmul mult cautat.
CNN interviu cu un martor ocular al cazului O'Hare Chicago din 7 Noiembrie 2006
Voi lasa o parte din trascriptul interviului si legatura catre sursa cu interviul complet unde puteti gasi si legatura catre film :-)

(http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i222602854_90992.jpg)

.......CNN's Gary Tuchman talked to one of the airport workers about
what he says he saw.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

Gary Tuchman, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Flights come to
Chicago's O'Hare Airport from all over the world. But do they
come from other worlds?

(on camera) You don't believe this was possibly your
imagination?

'Joe', Airplane Mechanic: It was definitely not my imagination.

Tuchman (voice-over): Joe is a mechanic for United Airlines.
While taxing a jumbo jet to the hangar, he and another
mechanic...

'Joe': Looked out the window in the general direction and
noticed an object up in the sky, dark gray object, sitting above
the terminal complex.

Tuchman: Joe, which is not his real name, is one of several
airport workers, some of whom have talked to the "Chicago
Tribune", who said they saw a saucer-shaped UFO hovering just
beneath the clouds at the airport.

He's the first to go on camera to talk about it since this
happened several weeks ago. He wants to remain anonymous.

(on camera) But you're sure it was some kind of object that
normally would not be above O'Hare Airport?

'Joe': I've been at O'Hare for quite some time. And let's just
say that I've never seen an object in my time that looked like
this. And I'll tell you definitely it was not an airplane as we
know it.

Tuchman: But it could be an airplane as another world knows it?

'Joe': Possibly.

Tuchman (voice-over): We brought in one of Chicago's top sketch
artists...

'Joe': Followed the contours of the object.

Tuchman: ... to listen to Joe and draw a picture of what he says
he saw.

'Joe': More like an oval, dark gray oval.

(http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i222689108_5082.jpg)
Drawing of the object by Chicago sketch artist Carol Renaud, according to the description given by one of the witnesses, an aircraft mechanic. (source: CNN)
.............................................

Puteti citi tot interviul de pe websitul meu la pagina cu acest caz OZN:
http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=27457161

Atat timp cat nu stim ce este, il putem numi "ozn", nu-i asa?

Citat din: calinahanna din  15 Ianuarie 2007, 14:37:42
Atat timp cat nu stim ce este, il putem numi "ozn", nu-i asa?

Da, si incercam sa il transformam in OZI(inclusiv nava extraterestra).  :wink: Eu zic ca nu putea fi un fenomen natural (metalic, a accelerat).  :-)

Ai dreptate calinahanna. :-)
Pana nu stim exact ce a fosat acel obiect ramane catalogat ca un Obiect Zburator Neindentificat adica OZN.

Corect sxn_b, :wink:
Nici eu nu ma indrum catre teoria unui fenomen natural pentru acest caz de la aeroportul din O'Hare atata timp cat nu sunt informatii solide sa deduca aceasta teorie.Sunt sigur ca acei martori oculari printre care piloti,mecanici si alti martori care au observat OZNul au experienta tinand cont ca lucreaza zi de zi in aeroport si sunt obisnuiti cu iluziile de prin prejur.Prin investigare cred ca se va ajunge in mare parte la un obiect off-planet.Unai sa vezi un spatiul gol rotund printre nori produs de un fenoen natural si alta sa vezi un obiect metalic care acelereaza puternic lasand un cerc gol printre nori.Unii sceptici se grabesc la o explicatie simpla nentinand cont de multele teorii ce se pot invarti in jurul fenomenului.
De acea am si expus in acea pagina din websitul meu toate informatiile valabile la ora actula despre acel caz incluzand teorille skeptice ca fenomene naturale si alte speculatii aruncate pentru a nega acest caz care consider ca este cel mai fierbinte caz OZN pe plan global in ultima perioada.De acea am si lasat un spatiu pentru comentariile cititorilor plus un sondaj de votare.Liberatatea de se veni cu ceva constructiv pentru investigarea cazului.Exista totusi o imagine al acelui obiect fotografiat de unul dintre piloti la care daca pun mana pe acea imagine o voi posta aici ca so vedeti numaidecat.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53820

Multzam, Spooky... :-)

Citat din: spooky din  18 Ianuarie 2007, 23:52:51
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53820

Merci de link Spooky.Nu are legatura cu incidentul de la aeroportul din O'Hare dar este intr-adevar interesant.
Uite asa cu incidentul din 7 noiembrie 2006 din O'Hare a dat motivatie de a aparea si alte cazuri de OZN cum este cel al lui Col. Brian Fields.Tocmai a aparut si continuarea cu cateva analize ce par interesante.UFO frenzy ignited by Air Force officer
Others report strange phenomenon, digital expert views possible 'pilot' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53841

Oricum ar fi bine daca nu vom devia de la incidentul precizat adica: OZN deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago / 7 Noiembrie 2006 care este mult mai fierbinte fiind unul dintre cele mai urmarite cazuri de OZN la ora actuala pe plan global si la care intr-adevar este un incident care are picioare cred eu.Multi martori...imagini si chiar un video o sa apara in curand dupa cum precizeaza unii investigatori ce-au preluat cazul la modul foarte serios de a scoate afara cat mai multe informatii posibile.Vom vedea.

Noi informatii despre incidentul OZN deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago / 7 Noiembrie 2006 le puteti gasi si pe websitul meu la pagina cu materialele expuse referitor la acest incident OZN unul dintre cele mai fierbinte cazuri la ora actuala.
Link direct aici: http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=27457161

Chiar adaugasem nu demult la sfarsitul paginii doua imagini ce reprezinta marturisirile unor alte doua persoane care au vazut fenomenul in timp ce lucrau la aeroportul din Chicago.Interesant este ca primul martor ce a declarat incidentul la websitul nuforc.org /National UFO Reporting Center a fost pe data de 13 noiembrie 2006 la orele 14:54 pe cand intr-un forum numit si "the democratic underground" cineva marturisise ce a vazut in acea zi pe deasupra aeroportului numai ca el scrisese pentru prima oara in acel forum pe data de 08 noiembrie 2006 12:16.Adica a doua zi chiar dupa incident si 5 zile inainte de primul care a spart gheatza pe mapamond.Voi lasa imaginea aici dar mai multe informatii despre incident le puteti gasi pe websitul meu in care este inclus si marturiile celuilalt martor fiind defapt si o stire noua.In cazul in care vor aparea stiri noi despre acest caz din O'hare va voi anunta.

(http://pic.funtigo.com/img/i222788230_875.jpg)

The O'Hare UFO sighting may be start of a 'Flap'
In the wake of the O'Hare International Airport UFO report that was carried on CNN and other news media in November, further recent sightings suggest we may be experiencing what those in 'ufology' refer to as a 'flap,' which is a period of time in which very many of these mysterious craft are seen in the skies.

On November 7, a flying saucer-like object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before it flew off into thick clouds with such energy that it left a hole in the overcast sky, and dozens of United Airlines employees observed the phenomenon.

UFOOfficials at the airport initially said they knew nothing of the mysterious object, however, the Federal Aviation Administration admitted its air traffic control tower at O'Hare airport had received a call from a supervisor there who wanted to know if the controllers had spotted an elliptical-shaped craft staying motionless over Concourse C of the United Airlines terminal.

Since then, and with all the interest the O'hare airport story has sparked, further reports have surfaced of sightings of UFOs in other parts of the world. Witnesses have claimed to have watched an unidentified flying object hovering at a low altitude for more than an hour over Bouyer Ahmad, Iran.

The glowing object was spotted two days after a similar object, described as having a yellow ray and a red centre, was sighted at the same time of day, the Fars News Agency reported. These sightings are following a reported UFO crash January 10 in the Barrez Mounts, Iran.

Deputy Governor-General Abulghassem Nasrollahi of Kerman province said police and other authorities were investigating and that the crash could not have been an airplane or helicopter because all aircraft flying in the area on that day had been accounted for.

Meanwhile back in America, a retired Air Force colonel, Colonel Brian Fields, who photographed mysterious, coloured lights hovering over western Arkansas last week has sparked a frenzy of interest in the subject of UFOs.

"I believe these lights were not of this world, and I feel a duty and responsibility to come forward," said Col. Brian Fields, who spent nearly 32 years in the military piloting F-16 fighter jets, and he added: "I have no idea what they were."

http://www.enjoyfrance.com/content/view/723/31/

Citat din: spooky din  22 Ianuarie 2007, 17:40:37
The O'Hare UFO sighting may be start of a 'Flap'
In the wake of the O'Hare International Airport UFO report that was carried on CNN and other news media in November, further recent sightings suggest we may be experiencing what those in 'ufology' refer to as a 'flap,' which is a period of time in which very many of these mysterious craft are seen in the skies.

On November 7, a flying saucer-like object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before it flew off into thick clouds with such energy that it left a hole in the overcast sky, and dozens of United Airlines employees observed the phenomenon.

UFOOfficials at the airport initially said they knew nothing of the mysterious object, however, the Federal Aviation Administration admitted its air traffic control tower at O'Hare airport had received a call from a supervisor there who wanted to know if the controllers had spotted an elliptical-shaped craft staying motionless over Concourse C of the United Airlines terminal.

Since then, and with all the interest the O'hare airport story has sparked, further reports have surfaced of sightings of UFOs in other parts of the world. Witnesses have claimed to have watched an unidentified flying object hovering at a low altitude for more than an hour over Bouyer Ahmad, Iran.

The glowing object was spotted two days after a similar object, described as having a yellow ray and a red centre, was sighted at the same time of day, the Fars News Agency reported. These sightings are following a reported UFO crash January 10 in the Barrez Mounts, Iran.

Deputy Governor-General Abulghassem Nasrollahi of Kerman province said police and other authorities were investigating and that the crash could not have been an airplane or helicopter because all aircraft flying in the area on that day had been accounted for.

Meanwhile back in America, a retired Air Force colonel, Colonel Brian Fields, who photographed mysterious, coloured lights hovering over western Arkansas last week has sparked a frenzy of interest in the subject of UFOs.

"I believe these lights were not of this world, and I feel a duty and responsibility to come forward," said Col. Brian Fields, who spent nearly 32 years in the military piloting F-16 fighter jets, and he added: "I have no idea what they were."

http://www.enjoyfrance.com/content/view/723/31/

Nu este de mirare, se pare ca acest lucru a fost prezis inca din antichitate.

"Zilele" Calendarului Mayas si semnificatia lor:

Galactic Consciousness
Cycle Timing of the Mayancalandar

1st "Day" Jan. 5th, 1999 - Dec. 30th, 1999
(Seeds of consciousness planted)

1st "Night" Dec. 31th, 1999 - Dec. 24th, 2000
(Consciousness is activated)

2nd "Day" Dec. 25th, 2000 - Dec. 19th, 2001
(Polarity is displayed)

2nd "Night" Dec. 20th, 2001 - Dec. 14th, 2002
(Old and New consciousness collide)

3rd "Day" Dec. 15th, 2002 - Dec. 9th, 2003
(The Truth rolls out - Like it or Not)

3rd "Night" Dec. 10th, 2003 - Dec. 3nd, 2004
(Adjustments to the Truth - Don't Hold on, but Flow)

4th "Day" Dec. 4th, 2004 - Nov. 28th, 2005
(New foundations of human relations)

4th "Night" Nov. 29th, 2005 - Nov. 23rd, 2006
(Ethical procedures are implemented)

5th "Day" Nov. 24th, 2006 - Nov. 18th, 2007
(We meet our Galactic neighbors)

5th "Night" Nov. 19th, 2007 - Nov. 12th, 2008
(The end of manufactured lack)


6th "Day" Nov. 13th, 2008 - Nov. 7th, 2009
(Consciousness surpasses technology)   

6th "Night" Nov. 8th, 2009 - Nov. 2nd, 2010
(Bliss, we will need the practice)   

7th "Day" Nov. 3rd, 2010 - Oct. 28th, 2011
(We evolve to conscious Co-Creation of
existence and experience)   

De retinut ca semnificatia acestei perioade a calendarului maya poate interpretata in multe moduri, de la mai multe "vizite recunoscute oficial" din partea vecinilor pana la un contact direct si oficial cu ei.

Government fails to look into O'Hare UFO :ufo:
By Editorial Board
Publication Date: 01/23/07
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Earth was visited by aliens in November. Or at least it's possible. Many employees of O'Hare Airport in Chicago have come forward and described a round gray object hovering just below cloud level around 4:30 p.m. on Nov. 7. But since then, there has not been a single probe by the FAA or the government.

It is understandable that every alien spacecraft sighting is not investigated. Simply poking around the Internet for 10 seconds looking for information on UFOs will reveal an astonishing amount of sightings. But there is something different about the O'Hare case. In this instance, many employees and a few pilots have come forward and presented United Airlines (where most of the employees worked) and the FAA with accounts of an object hovering over Terminal C. Six of these individuals have spoken with the media under the condition of anonymity. These individuals, although viewing the aircraft from different vantage points, all describe roughly the same account of the visit, including the object suddenly bursting through the cloud cover and leaving a hole behind.

Both the amount of witnesses and their credibility is extremely high. That is what sets the O'Hare sighting apart from most other sightings. These employees are well-trained mechanics, managers and pilots whose main motivation for reporting the sighting was the safety of airline passengers. But even after such a large amount of people risked their livelihoods and reputations to report a UFO, nobody has taken them seriously.

United refuses to acknowledge that any incident ever occurred, saying there is no record of the event. The FAA has chosen not to investigate, chalking everything up to a weather phenomenon. Why?

By ignoring the statements of a multitude of incredible witnesses, the organizations hope the issue will just go away. It probably will. But this is not a viable course of action. There should be an investigation about the sighting, if for no other reason than the fact that objects flying over restricted airspace could cause accidents killing hundreds of people. Maybe it wasn't a UFO, but the public deserves to know their plane isn't going to be blindsided upon runway approach by a weather balloon. And maybe, during the investigation, we find out what visited O'Hare. The truth is out there.

http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php?module=article&story_id=3746

In-sfarsit a aparut pe internet si o imagine ca fiind o fotografie luata de la aeroportul O'Hare.
Este vorba de fapt de asa spus OZN'ul din partea dreapta sus a imaginei.
Pe websitul ''abovetopsecret'' cineva cu numele '00000000'' a expus o imagine primita de la cineva care a spus ca fotografia a fost luata de la aeroportul O'Hare cu telefonul mobil.Subliniez ca este prima imagine implicata in acest caz OZN din O'hare care a fost postata pe data de ''posted on 23-1-2007 at 07:29 PM'' dupa cum se poate vedea si pe imaginea de mai jos pe care am extras-o special de a o expune aici.

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9470/ooooo5bx.jpg)

Imediat dupa cateva ore tot internetul s-a umplut cu aceasta imagine.
De exemplu aici: http://www.ufocasebook.com/allegedoharephoto.html
Eu m-am abtinut deocamdata sa expun aceasta imagine pe websitul meu deoarece se speculeaza in jur ca fotografia este un hoax si multe elemente duc la suspiciuni.Cum si de ce voi reveni cu urmatorul post. :wink:

Imaginea originala needitata este aceasta pe care o voi expune mai jos:

(http://www.ufocasebook.com/allegedoharephoto.jpg)

Credibilitatea acelei imagini aparuta recent duc la multe suspiciuni deoarece am observat ca unii mai cu experienta incearca sa mestece poza si sa gasesca bubele in cazul in care exista.Noua poza aparuta s-ar putea sa fie reala sau sa fie doar un Hoax bine facut.Deocamdata exista foarte multe teorii si se presupune ca este un HOAX din mai multe motive dar inca nu exista evidente suficiente.Investigarile continue  :wink:

Un membru din ''abovetopsecret'' a argumentat urmatoarele.A-l citez si a-i voi expune munca:

CitatOk I'm early in this as of yet, I just been busy with so much else...

In looking on Google Image Search for shots of O'Hare I found this shot, which shows an issue of airplane congestion on incoming flights:
(http://www.carbonchamber.com/ohare/congest.jpg)
image source: http://www.carbonchamber.com/ohare/congest.jpg

You can see the image here, at this link from Google

I was looking for shots that might have been manipulated, or I thought I might come across the same vantage point by some stretch of luck.

But, I noticed it was a little strange that certain angles matched the degrees of the Ohare UFO shot, like the bend in the runway. So I overlayed them. This animation might take a couple secs to load but here's a dissolve on the two:

(http://www.carbonchamber.com/ohare/oharescrub.gif)

image source: http://www.carbonchamber.com/ohare/oharescrub.gif

What I notice is there's either a slight bit of lens distortion IF they arent the same picture. OR, I just cant get them aligned right, which might be due in part to being manipulated for making it into the UFO shot. I've aligned them as best I can right now. Again, there's certain angles like the runway that line up so close it's hard to ascribe to luck in positioning. It's really, really close.

What I note is the wicked similarity of stationary objects, and the lights on the horizon area. We dont see them in the UFO shot. But, when you look back and forth between the congestion and the UFO shot, the UFO shot seems to have dark areas around where the lights *should* be. Could they be painted over? Cloned over with treeline? Seems possible to me.
This begs the question to me: If the UFO shot is overcast, and somewhat dark, and the congestion shot seems to be the same, why arent those lights on? You'd think they'd be auto-eye controlled. Maybe the exposure of the cell phone doesnt depict the light conditions, but it was 4:30, reportedly just before dark. I think those lights oughtta be on...thats just me.
Manipulated? I dunno yet. I can say the grain or noise of the UFO photo appears to be very uniform, but I cant say thats exactly out of the nature of a cell phone cam.
I try to picture someone wanting to fake this shot, and coming across this picture (congestion) and thinking that this almost looks like a UFO shot already.
Now, if it IS NOT the same picture manipulated into a UFO shot, then we're looking at a photo thats taken exceedingly close to the same position of the UFO one. We're currently looking into finding a map of the airport so we can determine if this object was indeed over the gate area as desribed. (unless someone has already done that)
Just an interesting shot I wanted to show, might be a clue. I'll keep diggin.

Un alt membru de acolo tot cu experienta precizeaza,citez:

CitatOk, here's where I am at this point:

I called my buddy David Biedny who's a literal PhotoShop God (Google him if ya want), and he and I agree there's a definite ocular distortion between the congestion shot and the UFO shot. David is of the opinion that we're looking at 2 different cameras/phones, and thats what's causing that. While I tend to see some disturbance in pixels in sky vs congestion's lights when the two images are aligned, David does not. I'm more inclined to agree with his experience and fresh eyes then my own.

David also pointed out an area of the horizon that appears to have a color in it that doesnt appear in the congestion shot. I dont know what it is, and I had not seen it. It's an orange blob we cant readily dismiss, and as David said, might be a product of ocular distortion between lenses if these arent the same shot, but two different cams. At worst, I think it might be a blur of one of the horizon lights seen in the congestion shot.

There is however, (and if you look at the dissolve shot I posted you see this) an area where 4 lights are seen on the horizon on the congestion shot. Look between the left 2 beginning lights...this area turns into an orange smear, and the trees become peaked as opposed to not being there at all. This to me suggests a paint over to remove those lights. It's really subtle, but I can really see it. The big question is how far would a person faking this go.

I also have extreme issue with the reflections on the landing cement. In both photos, they line up. This again furthers the assertation that these might be the same shot, altered. Not only would it be a stretch to me to say these 2 photos were taken by a different cam at different times (and have such a degree of alignment), but for the reflections to line up in both I cannot resolve as a "happy accident". I just doesnt make sense to me...then again I'm not on the strip looking at it in person.

I'll make note that such reflections dont have to be from water or rain...heat can do this, as well as the smoothness of the landing strip.

The yellow and white tapered background object is definitely in both shots. IF thats some sort of train, that does it for me. No train is going to be at the same spot in both. However, if it's a wall of some sort, or building, that blows that. We'll have to get panaoramic shots of the area once it's found conclusively.

Were both shots taken at the same location. No question. I think we're past that.

I have another note no one really mentioned. The UFO photo's horizon is visibly slanted. However, the UFO is perfectly leveled to the top and bottom of the photo. If you adjust the horizon to level, the ufo is slanted. Now thats not to say it couldnt BE on an angle, but I always look at it from that standpoint that IF it's being faked using the congestion shot, and angled to make it look different, then the "ship" was put in, did someone forget to level the ship with the horizon? Seems like a likely error, that we've seen before. It's a possibility to me, but we dont know the orientation of the UO at the time.
David and I also picked up a smear around the UOs left side going up around it's top, almost like a Nike swoop. Could this possibly be air or atmospheric displacement as was reported? Or could it be a sign of tampering to insert the UO?
There seems as much pro as con, which is ultimately aggravating.
I think we'll all be able to tell better when we get some shots of the possible areas I asked Pegasus for.
That said, I GOT to give my eyes a break. I'm gonna start seeing this shot in my sleep

Investigarile continue.Daca mai apare ceva va voi anunta daca sunteti interesaati.
Ciuciulete sa nu uiti sa arunci o privire peste cele de mai sus.Pare un caz foarte interesant si pe cuvant ca acest incident din aeroportul O'Hare petrecut pe data de 7 noiembrie 2006 este cel mai fierbinte caz OZN la ora actuala. :wink:

O imagine cu argumentariile unui alt membru:
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9955/ali1jpg3zo.jpg)

Inca o imagine ajutatoare cu aeroportul O'Hare..doar o schita ca o idee. :wink:

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4815/micmic9bh.jpg)

Inca o imagine noua aparuta pe websitul ''abovetopsecret''.
Aceasta imagine pe care o voi atasa mai jos este inca la atelier unde la ora actuala doi super experti calificati in analizari de video si imagini mesteca aceasta poza pentru mai multe informatii.Cand vor aparea stiri noi despre aceste fotografii luate cu telefonul mobil atunci va voi anunta numaidecat.Se poate sa fie o fotografie a unui nou caz de hoax sau intr-adevar o imagine reala.Vom trai si vom vedea :-D

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3892/kopievonnew1yz5.jpg)

Salut,
Urmaresc de mult timp cazul asta si mi se pare foarte interesant.Sper sa iasa la iveala mai multe poze,poate si niste inregistrari video... :evil:

P.S. : bine v-am gasit :P

Salut Unidentified si bine ai venit printre noi
Intr-adevar acest caz din O'Hare este un caz fierbinte la ora actuala in care cam toti cei pasionati de OZNuri asteapta o imagine sau un video cu acel OZN misterios.Se stie ca exista fotografii si chiar un video si ca o sa apara de curand spun unii investigatori.Problema acum este ca mai sunt si altii care se joaca cu photoshopul si vor sa se distreze.Cam merita trasi de urechi acesti hoaxeri dar ce sa-i faci,intotdeauna exista dinpacate si astfel de indivizi.
Unidentified,sa stii ca pe websitul meu am deschis o pagina cu acest caz unde vreau sa expun orice informatie legata de intamplarea din O'Hare.Chiar am pus si un sondaj de votare care a ajuns pana acum doar la 45 de voturi printre care 38 sunt pentru UN OZN.Poti vizita pagina mea aici: http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=27457161
Cand voi avea timp si informatii bune le voi posta numaidecat si acolo.Numai bine 8-)

Adevarul este ca in ultimul timp mi se pare ca aceste fenomene neidentificate par sa se inmulteasca sau poate mi se pare mie.Am gasit un link cu acest caz care pare sa cuprinda toate informatiile legate de ozn.
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1200&category=Environment

Unidentified,nu te grabi la concluzii........
In acel website prezentat de tine mai sus sunt publicate doua fotografii ceau aparut pe internet si legate de O'Hare Chicago si asa spus luate cu telefonul mobil dar acele informatii sunt vechi.Acolo se spune ca imaginile nu au fost manipulate dar stirea este de pe 25 ianuarie 2007 adica acum doua zie.Acum cateva ore a aparut si analiza expertilor.Stai pe aprope ca vin cu urmatorul post :-D LOL

Stiri calde aparute in ultimile ore.

Doi experti in analizari (de la ATP-AboveTopSecret ''digital experts'' -David Biedny and Jeff Ritzmann) au descoperit ca a doua imagine aparuta pe internet legata de cazul O'Hare este un fals adica un HOAX.

Voi lasa argumentatiile lui si o fotografie ce indica ca cealalta imagine a fost manipulata si falsificata.

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8826/kopievon99gc4.jpg)

Iar aceasta este imaginea originala la care falsificatorul ia adaugat asa spus OZNul pe partea dreapta sus.

(http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6705/99agc1.jpg)

Deci nu trebuie sa ne grabim sa avem incredere chiar in orice fotografie care apare din senin pe internet fara a avea mai multe informatii si fara sa fie analizata de unii mai cu experienta.Daca voi avea mai mult timp liber in aceasta seara voi mai posta ceva interesant despre acest caz.Un nou martor a aparut referitor la acest caz din O'Hare la care reda foarte multe amanunte interesante si la care nu se retrage ca anonim ci reda raspunsuri la toate intrebarile la care li se cere.Voi reveni..... :fullmoon:

Aceasta poza este un fals?

Citat din: Seeker din  28 Ianuarie 2007, 01:04:12
Aceasta poza este un fals?
(http://www.rufon.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=784.0;attach=4139;image)

Da Seeker!
Din pacate este un fals.De pe acest link,prima imagine: http://www.interstate80.info/ord.html
....a fost extrasa si prelucrata.Daca te uiti atent ai sa intelegi..... :fullmoon:

Jackie, mai ti-aduci aminte de pe topicul "Controverse, cazuri discutabile, confuzii, falsuri, trucuri, mistificari..de ce?" legat de o poza de la Galati....
eu tot spuneam ca falsuri nedetectabile se pot face cu ceva efort si talent, iar tu spuneai ca prin analiza pixelatiei etc se poate discerne daca imaginea este manipulata sau nu.
Dupa cum se vede, adevarul este la mijloc, in functie de priceperea celui care face falsul:
- analize atente pot depista falsul, daca acesta este imperfect
- orice fel de analize nu mai pot depista falsul, daca acesta este bine realizat.
Cu alte cuvinte, in ziua de azi, aproape orice imagine (si doar imaginea in sine) nu mai poate fi exclusa complet de banuiala de a fi fost falsificata. Mai degraba conteaza elementele auxiliare cazului in excluderea sau includerea acestei posibilitati. In plus, in ziua de azi e din ce in ce mai usor sa falsifici, dupa cum se vede ca tot felul de teribilisti talentati isi fac de cap pe mintile internetistilor.
Cazul "OZN deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago / 7 Noiembrie 2006" poate fi real, dar de ce trebuie sa stam o gramada de indivizi sa filtram nebuniile unora pentru a afla adevarul?

Citat din: ciuciulete din  28 Ianuarie 2007, 11:08:12Dupa cum se vede, adevarul este la mijloc, in functie de priceperea celui care face falsul:

De acord ciuciulete...dar sa nu uitam.......si in functia celui care analizeaza imaginea binenteles. :wink:

Eu la fel sunt oarecum convins ca cazul ''OZN deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago / 7 Noiembrie 2006'' poate fi unul real din ce arata testimoniile martorilor oculari...dar deocamdata foarte multi asteapta imagini cu acel OZN deoarece se stie ca au fost luate cateva fotografii chiar si un video.Deci multi profita de ocazie si se distreaza facand si construind o desinformare precum imaginile false de mai sus care au fost depistate rapid.
Eu nu as vrea sa expun falsuri in acest topic despre caz,doar aduc ultimile noutati ca sa nu ne lasam inselati de unele hoaxuri precum acele doua imagini de mai sus.Momentan se lucreaza foarte mult la prima imagine pe care am expus-o pe prima pagina deoarece unul din martorii oculari a precizat ca prima imagine aparuta adica aceasta de mai jos:

(http://www.ufocasebook.com/allegedoharephoto.jpg)

poate fi una reala dupa cum arata precizeza unul din martori.Tocmai am facut rost de stiri noi si calde despre acest subiect si le voi posta numaidecat cand voi prinde ceva mai mult timp liber astazi sau maine.Este vorba de un nou martor ocular care a aparut recent si este unul cu o cariera serioasa si pare o persoana destul de credibila raspunzand tuturor intrebarilor cea ce putin falsificatori rezista la o asemenea tentatie.....voi reveni :fullmoon:

Pe forumul ATS(AboveTopSecret) a aparut o persona care precizeaza ca a fost un martor al acelui caz din O'Hare si la care a vazut acel OZN misterios.Persona pare foarte serioasa redand foarte multe informatii despre caz.Voi expune aici o imagine ce reprezinta postul original al martorului cu numele ''Eyewitness''

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7444/1eyewitjpgbp4.jpg)

Un nou articol interesant despre acest caz a aparut pe websitul investigatorului Linda Moulton Howe
Puteti citi aici un interviu complet: http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1201&category=Environment

CitatMany Watched for At Least
10 Minutes and Took Photographs

We watched it from the international parking lot for about ten minutes (and about 5 more minutes before while driving). There were many people there taking photos – cell phones and digital cameras. So, there ARE pictures out there.

Vreau sa va anunt ca actorul Dan Aykroyd a precizat ca un video cu incidentul  O'Hare exista si ca a-l are.
Puteti citi intregul articol de la sursa originala: http://www.ufocasebook.com/aykroydpurchase.html
(http://www.ufocasebook.com/aykroyd.jpg)
Si websitul lui actorului Dan Aykrod: http://www.daufo.com/
Poate ca stiti defapt ca actorul Dan Aykrod este un membru MUFON si ca este convins ca suntem vizitati de fiinte extraterestre.
http://www.mufon.com/
http://www.mufon.com/akroyd.htm


Un post mai vechi de al meu ca pe ceva suplimentar.

Citat din: jackie28t din  12 Iunie 2006, 17:34:38
sursa originala: http://www.ufocasebook.com/aykroydcooper.html

Video of Aykroyd, Anderson Interview
(http://www.ufocasebook.com/aykroydpart1.jpg)
CNN with Anderson Cooper - On Friday June 9, 2006: Dan Aykroyd talks about his new documentary focusing on his belief that some UFOs originate from extraterrestrial intelligence, "Dan Aykroyd, Uplugged."
He also talks about Dr. John Mack's research on human/alien encounters."

The video file has been edited by the UFO Casebook; all commercials are gone, and only the interview content is seen.

Foarte interesant clipurile de la CNN...vad ca incetu cu incetu ese adevarul la suprafata.Mi-a placut ca a precizat si de Dr. John Mack care sa ocupat timp de 10 ani in cazuri de abduction.Am citit opera lui inclusiv ultima carte a lui ''Passport To The Cosmos''

Se pare ca avem de asteptat si de sperat ca acele inregistrari sa fie clare si chiar sa existe.Eu ma indoiesc ...

Salut Unidentified.Mai pe scurt incidentul ''OZN deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago / 7 Noiembrie 2006'' va ramane in istoria UFologiei pentru mult timp.Defapt acest caz este unul foarte respectat deoarece au fost multi martori foarte seriosi si s-au facut multe fotografii si filme.Ele sunt undeva afara si pot aparea in orice moment.
Eu cel putin am expus aici in acest topic informatiile cele mai recente despre incidentul din O'Hare dar ca intr-un forum despre OZNuri....nu prea sa vazut interesul sau agitatia.Ma intreb oare de ce.Sau mai bine nu.
Unidentified, in websitul meu unde am prezentat acest caz, la sfarsitul paginei este un sonjaj de votare.Te invit sa votezi si tu acolo.Pana acum acea pagina cu respectivul caz din websitul meu a fost visitata de peste 2.000 de persoane din peste 40 de tari si sondajul este pana in prezent la 74 de voturi dupa care poti vedea si tu aici:  http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=27457161&cr=1

Salut Jackie,

Am urmarit si eu acest caz tot cam din aceleasi surse ca si tine .Nu stiu cat de mult ar trebui sa ne agitam referitor la acest caz deoarece practic multe nu prea putem face.Am vazut si siteul tau ,imi place si ma duc acum sa votez :P

Bine Unidentified ,merci...numai sa nu incurci butoanele. :wink:
Vezi ca poti si sa votezi si in acest sondaj din acest topic.....se pare ca duce spre un real  :ufo:

Narcap (National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena) a publicat un raport stufos despre cele intamplate deasupra aeroportului O'Hare Chicago.

O mini concluzie :

'This investigation has determined that, based upon the testimony of multiple eye witnesses in different locations at O'Hare International Airport, a small physical, and apparently solid object hovered over the United Airlines concourse area for at least ten minutes or more but was not detected either by radar or visually by air traffic controllers in the tower. For this reason the object is considered a definite potential threat to flight operations at O'Hare.'

Adica in urma investigatiilor s-a determinat ca pe baza marturiilor mai multor observatori din locatii diferite, la aeroportul in cauza un obiect de dimensiuni mici, aparent solid a plutit in spatiul aerian al statelor unite pentru cel putin 10 minute si care nu a fost detectat de nici un radar si nici de controlorii de trafic din turnul de control. Din aceasta cauza acest obiect este considerat o amenintare pentru zborurile din zona.


http://www.narcap.org/reports/TR10_Case_18.pdf
www.narcap.org

    O'Hare UFO video surfaces on Youtube (O inregistrare video a fost urcata pe youtube)

Ce zice individul care a postat inregistrarea:

'I have sat on this evidence for over 2 years, mainly because of the nature of my background, if you knew who I was then you would understand.

I only got one minute's worth of footage because my cell phone's memory was full, and it stopped recording.

Back on November 7th 2006, I was near Chicago O'hare International airport when I was witness to what was arguably one of the most important UFO incidents in modern times. After the incident, many people jumped on the UFO bandwagon and came forward with false evidence, I can't speak for these individuals, I can only speak for myself.

I witnessed a gigantic UFO hovering over the Airport at precisely 4:32 p.m. The UFO was a dark, hazy metallic disc/cigar shaped craft. It was at a height of roughly 750 feet from the ground, completely silent, frozen still, and was well over 100 meters in length. I managed to film the UFO on my cell phone for 1 minute, I observed the UFO for a further 1 minute, after which time it took off, and went upwards at tremendous speed and was gone.

If you watch the clip properly, at the start of the clip you can clearly see a large passenger jet taking off, and flying directly under the UFO, which shows just how huge this thing was. The UFO was completely frozen still, and any movement on the video clip is camera movement and camera shake. I filmed the UFO on my cell phone with the zoom set to full.

This is arguably one of the most important pieces of UFO photographic evidence in existence, and to ever be posted on the internet, simply because I know it was a genuine Unidentified Flying Object, and it was witnessed by many credible individuals, including pilots.

Yes I would love to come forward and go public with my story, but this is just not an option for me, due to my job. So that is why I have posted the clip on You Tube. For those who don't want to believe the truth, thats up to you, but what you are seeing is genuine footage of an unknown craft, and shame on the worlds media for all the ridicule they threw at this unbelievable incident. '

Atacat de critici, el raspunde :

"Ok, so I will answer some of the main questions directed at me. All I can say is that the footage is 100% real and genuine. The reason it's not great quality is because it's only 3 mega pixel cell phone footage, and yes we had zoom 2 years ago, and to say I filmed it of a screen is untrue and insane. The sound is crappy because I was at some distance from the aircraft, and cell phone's dont pick up much sound, they only have a tiny microphone for recording sound. The reason I only got one minute's worth of footage is because my cell phone's memory was full and? it stopped recording. Dont you think I would just pay somebody to create me a stunning piece of evidence if I really wanted to pull a hoax???? Think about it..........."


link catre video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hMlCGnWkc4

mai multe aici : http://www.examiner.com/x-2363-UFO-Examiner~y2009m3d24-OHare-UFO-video-surfaces-on-Youtube

aici este un documentar despre acest incident : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3829FDE35E959629

:ufo: