The integrated consciousness that make the Hyperspace
You can take a volume of space, remove everything possible out of it, and then freeze it to degrees approaching absolute zero so that most of the background radiation gets zapped too and still there is something in that space. Energy and particle creation can still exist in such a realm.
What is it? It is the basic ingredient of the Hyperspace that contain our physical Universe and many other parallel and non-parallel universes.
The ZPE modules that recycle in the form of life in the physical universe and other universes in the Hyperspace to gain next levels of energy elevation actually are part of an integrated consciousness ? the essential part of the type IV civilization.
These ZPEMs actually provide the necessary suction force to control, manipulate and maintain the Physical and other parallel universes. Thus the mechanisms by which the Hyperspace as well as the countless individual Universes is maintained are really composed of a complex structure of the ZPEMs.
These ZPEMs are the life forms all over the Hyperspace, individual universes and even in the chilled or flat universe that forms the foundation of everything.
If you try to visualize the intensity of the ZPE ? Zero Point Energy, consider the following :
Radio waves, light, X-rays, and gamma rays are all forms of electromagnetic radiation. Classically, electromagnetic radiation can be pictured as waves flowing through space at the speed of light. The waves are not waves of anything substantive, but are in fact ripples in a state of a field. These waves do carry energy, and each wave has a specific direction, frequency and polarization state. This is called a "propagating mode of the electromagnetic field."
Each mode or module is a tiny amount of energy, but the number of modes is enormous, and indeed increases as the square of the frequency. The product of the tiny energy per mode times the huge spatial density of modes yields a very high theoretical energy density per cubic centimeter. The zero-point energy density would be at least 110 orders of magnitude greater than the radiant energy at the center of the Sun.
The really provides an idea of the level of energy we are talking about! The ZPEs collectively control the gravity and electromagnetic force fields in the 3-D Physical Universe. Similarly they also control the spatial structures of other Universes.
Buna baaron :)
Magnetic Power Inc. is Nearing Pre-Production Stage with Zero Point Energy Modules
Modules built with off-the-shelf components are expected to generate electricity anywhere, any time, for less than 1 cent per kilowatt-hour. One kW modules expected for market early next year.
Acesta este un lucru fenomenal.Ar schimba total lumea in care traim in caz ca o sa o duca la capat.Zero Point Energy ... cei cu vechime in ufologie si nu numai stiu mai multe . :evil:
Ar trebui sa vorbim despre inceputurile acestui tip de energie,de unde provine,despre cine, cum si unde,implicatii etc . :wink:
http://pesn.com/2005/06/17/9600113_MagneticPowerInc_Pre-Production/
ps: poate se muta subiectul asta in alta parte si nu in English section
Sal Unidentified,
Link-ul ala se pare ca e cam vechi... 2005.
La link-ul http://magneticpowerinc.com/ (http://magneticpowerinc.com/) e site-ul respectivei firme. Din punctul meu de vedere multe declaratii dar nimic practic ca si produs finit.
La http://peswiki.com/energy/Main_Page (http://peswiki.com/energy/Main_Page) gasesti o descriere destul de detaliata a profilului firmei:
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc (http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc)
iar acolo gasesti evaluarea de la NEC:
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc#NEC_Evaluation (http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc#NEC_Evaluation) si rubrica de scepticemie cronica:
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc#Skeptics (http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc#Skeptics)
Merita citite... :-D
De acord cu tine Lupin!Am vazut ca stirea este din 2005 dar am pus-o pt ca descrie destul de bine ce vrea firma asta renumita :) .Inca un motiv pt care am pus stirea este ca Magnetic Power inc. a revenit in actualitate afirmand cu tarie ca au realizat,in sfarsit ,un prototip ce furnizeaza acest tip de energie.Toata problema este sa fie real ...
Ciudat este ca aceasta stire cu prototipul lor magnific a aparut dupa ce Steorn a anuntat ca au si ei o tehnologie de producere a energiei gratuite :) .
Oricum ,dupa spusele celor de la Magnetic Power Inc mai avem putin de asteptat ,pana o sa iasa patentul pe inventie.
Ciudat, nu?...acest ZPE apare in celebrul serial SGA (Stargate Atlantis) acolo fiind numit ZPM (Zero Point Module).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPE
Mi se pare ca-i aceiasi marie dar cu alta palarie.
Problema e ca per moment firma aia produce doar comunicate de presa si in rest nimic... Nu stiu cine e firma cealalta ar tare imi e teama ca si ei fac tot la fel...
http://www.steorn.com/
http://www.steorn.com/orbo/claim/
Steorn's technology is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy. The technology can be applied to virtually all devices requiring energy, from cellular phones to cars.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/steorn-teases-with-a-reveal-date-friday-april-13th/
Vedem ca pana la urma daca nu e adevarat si-au sapat singuri groapa ... :evil:
ps:daca vrea careva carti despre zpe sa-mi spuna ca ori le pun aici dar sa nu incalc drepturi de autor ceva ori le trimit via mail 8-)
Milton - Casimir effect physical manifestations of zero point energy (1999)
Moray B King - Quest For Zero Point Energy (224p, mixes alt. stuff with orthodox)
nick cook the hunt for zero point (pare destul de interesanta)
Citat din: bluemoon8520 din 12 Aprilie 2007, 18:44:13
Ciudat, nu?...acest ZPE apare in celebrul serial SGA (Stargate Atlantis) acolo fiind numit ZPM (Zero Point Module).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPE
Mi se pare ca-i aceiasi marie dar cu alta palarie.
sa inteleg ca tu crezi ca zero point energy este sf sau am inteles eu gresit ?!
luand niste citate din linkul dat de tine :
' In physics, the zero-point energy is the lowest possible energy that a quantum mechanical physical system may possess and is the energy of the ground state of the system. The concept of zero-point energy was proposed by Albert Einstein and Otto Stern in 1913, which they originally called "residual energy" or Nullpunktsenergie. All quantum mechanical systems have a zero point energy. The term arises commonly in reference to the ground state of the quantum harmonic oscillator and its null oscillations. In quantum field theory, it is a synonym for the vacuum energy, an amount of energy associated with the vacuum of empty space. In cosmology, the vacuum energy is taken to be the origin of the cosmological constant. Experimentally, the zero-point energy of the vacuum leads directly to the Casimir effect, and is directly observable in nanoscale devices.
Because zero point energy is the lowest possible energy a system can have, this energy cannot be removed from the system.'
Treaba asta a pornit se pare de la formula lui Planck:
'In 1900, Max Planck derived the formula for the energy of a single "energy radiator", i.e. a vibrating atomic unit, as:
\epsilon = \frac{h\nu}{ e^{\frac{h\nu}{kT}}-1}
Here, h is Planck's constant, ν is the frequency, k is Boltzmann's constant, and T is the temperature.
In 1913, using this formula as a basis, Albert Einstein and Otto Stern published a paper of great significance in which they suggested for the first time the existence of a residual energy that all oscillators have at absolute zero. They called this "residual energy" and then Nullpunktsenergie (in German), which later became translated as zero-point energy. They carried out an analysis of the specific heat of hydrogen gas at low temperature, and concluded that the data are best represented if the vibrational energy is taken to have the form:[1]
\epsilon = \frac{h\nu}{ e^{\frac{h\nu}{kT}}-1} + \frac{h\nu}{2}
Thus, according to this expression, even at absolute zero the energy of an atomic system has the value ½hν.'
Au mai fost referiri la zpe si din partea renumitului fizician Nikola Tesla.Inca un articol interesant :
' UFOs and the Zero Point Field
By Marie D. Jones, author of Psience: How New Discoveries in Quantum Physics and New Science May Explain the Existence of Paranormal Phenomena (Amazon US and UK).
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Most ufologists agree that alien spacecraft must be using a highly advanced technology or propulsion system to move them across vast distances in short periods of time. [Psience] Quantum physics may hold the answer to how they are getting "here from there," and that answer is the Zero Point Field(ZPF).
Paul Dirac theorized the existence of the ZPF in the early years of quantum mechanics. He suggested that space was filled with particles in negative energy states that exerted a measurable force. This force became known as the Casimir Effect, after the research of Dutch physicist Hendrik B.G. Casimir. The Casimir Effect occurs due to resonance of energy in the space between two objects, say two metal plates held closely together. Increase the distance between the plates, and the force or effect decreases.
Albert Einstein, Max Planck and Otto Stern were early ZPF researchers, and in 1916, Walther Nernst formally proposed that space was not empty as previously thought, but rather filled with this zero point electromagnetic radiation.
We now know that empty space is literally teeming with activity. Tiny electromagnetic fields fluctuate, even at near zero temperatures. Quantum physicists have discovered that there is a field of energy that permeates every inch of space, one so fundamental it is considered to be the source of all other forms of energy and matter.
Later research has shown that the ZPF is made up of particles that "pop" in and out of existence, creating a sort of foam of virtual particles, each with their own residual "jiggle" or minute rate of oscillation.
The most fascinating promise of the ZPF is its potential as an infinite source of energy, one that physicists like Hal Puthoff believe may one day propel space craft to distant parts of our universe. Ufologists believe alien civilizations far in advance of our own are already using the ZPF, harnessing the unlimited field of energy as they literally shoot across amazing distances.
Puthoff believes we are nowhere near understanding how to extract and large amounts of Zero Point Energy for such uses as heating our homes and fueling our cars and planes. Yet, research is going on now that may come up with viable ways to tap into this repository of ground energy states and virtual particles that, according to physicist Richard Feynman, could contain enough energy in just one single cubic meter of space to boil the world's oceans.
That's a lot of energy. And if the ZPF is indeed as infinite as space itself, the energy will never run out. Unlike fossil fuels, this field of energy will be constantly self-regenerating. In fact, Puthoff calls the ZPF a "self-regenerating grand ground state of the universe."
Research into the ZPF also shows its ability to affect gravity, and the ZPF may possibly be the missing link in the quest to bring together the four fundamental forces of gravity, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces.
Because the energy in the ZPF is thought to be massive, even infinite, exceeding nuclear energy densities, just a tiny amount of Zero Point Energy could be turned into a whole lot of fuel. A 2004 article in Aviation Week and Space Technology entitled, "To The Stars", stated that large aerospace companies and the U.S. Defense Department are launching research into the ZPF and its potential.
For our alien friends eager to visit our planet or just do a quick fly-by, the ZPF is like a superhighway of energy that might just be the preferred mode of fuel for civilizations that have already found extraction methods. Only time and a lot of cutting edge research will tell if we will one day be able to do the same.'
Citat din: Unidentified din 12 Aprilie 2007, 21:53:25
sa inteleg ca tu crezi ca zero point energy este sf sau am inteles eu gresit ?!
luand niste citate din linkul dat de tine :
Ai inteles gresit! Eu stiu ca astia au dat stirea ca 'detin', cel putin la nivel de prototip, asa ceva (ZPE) in realitate, dar ideea a fost ca inainte de asta am 'vazut' acest dispozitiv (ZPM) in SGA. Am spus "
ciudat" pentru ca cine stie cate din lucrurile din filme (mai ales cele SF) exista in realitate, iar noi (cel putin unii din noi) le considera inca de domeniu SF si... le ignoram in consecinta de cauza.
SF (en. SciFi) Science/Fiction=Stiinta/Fictiune (fictiune=care nu exista in realitate).
FICÞIÚNE, ficþiuni, s.f. Reprezentare produsã de imaginaþia cuiva ºi care nu corespunde realitãþii sau nu are corespondent în realitate: plãsmuire a imaginaþiei; nãscocire. [Pr.: -þi-u-] – Din fr. fiction, lat. fictio, -onis.
Citat din: bluemoon8520 din 12 Aprilie 2007, 22:02:31
Ai inteles gresit! Eu stiu ca astia au dat stirea ca 'detin', cel putin la nivel de prototip, asa ceva (ZPE) in realitate, dar ideea a fost ca inainte de asta am 'vazut' acest dispozitiv (ZPM) in SGA. Am spus "ciudat" pentru ca cine stie cate din lucrurile din filme (mai ales cele SF) exista in realitate, iar noi (cel putin unii din noi) le considera inca de domeniu SF si... le ignoram in consecinta de cauza.
SF (en. SciFi) Science/Fiction=Stiinta/Fictiune (fictiune=care nu exista in realitate).
FICÞIÚNE, ficþiuni, s.f. Reprezentare produsã de imaginaþia cuiva ºi care nu corespunde realitãþii sau nu are corespondent în realitate: plãsmuire a imaginaþiei; nãscocire. [Pr.: -þi-u-] – Din fr. fiction, lat. fictio, -onis.
pai asta vroiam sa stiu nu din alt motiv te-am intrebat.A fost cam ambiguu postul tau si erau mai multe variante .
Problema cu filmele sf si nu numai care 'inventeaza' tot felul de aparate,scenarii,specii si care majoritatea dintre noi le considera doar pura fictiune este o alta discutie interesanta.
ps : nu era nevoie sa dai copy paste cu ce inseamna sf /fictiune ... poate intelegi de ce
Citat din: Unidentified din 12 Aprilie 2007, 22:29:44
ps : nu era nevoie sa dai copy paste cu ce inseamna sf /fictiune ... poate intelegi de ce
Am vrut doar sa subliniez ceva.
Citat din: Unidentified din 12 Aprilie 2007, 20:42:16
ps:daca vrea careva carti despre zpe sa-mi spuna ca ori le pun aici dar sa nu incalc drepturi de autor ceva ori le trimit via mail 8-)
Milton - Casimir effect physical manifestations of zero point energy (1999)
Moray B King - Quest For Zero Point Energy (224p, mixes alt. stuff with orthodox)
nick cook the hunt for zero point (pare destul de interesanta)
Multumesc. Per moment nu le trimite. Am in lectura "Dimplomatia" de Henry Kissinger
http://www.librariilehumanitas.ro/product.php/Diplomatia/1881/ (http://www.librariilehumanitas.ro/product.php/Diplomatia/1881/)
iar in coada de asteptare mai sunt cateva carti...
Citat din: LupinThe3rd din 13 Aprilie 2007, 13:21:37
Multumesc. Per moment nu le trimite. Am in lectura "Dimplomatia" de Henry Kissinger
http://www.librariilehumanitas.ro/product.php/Diplomatia/1881/ (http://www.librariilehumanitas.ro/product.php/Diplomatia/1881/)
iar in coada de asteptare mai sunt cateva carti...
nici o problema lupino ...
Astazi cei de la Steorn au facut anuntul promis dar ne spune ca trebuie sa asteptam cam pana in iulie cand vor prezenta in Londra tehnologia.Exact nu stiu daca are legatura cu zpe dar se poate adauga in aceeasi categorie ,aceea a energiei gratuite si curate.
Pesimismul inca pluteste asupra lor ,lucru bun de altfel ;) .Impactul unei astfel de tehnologii este enorm totusi si merita sa asteptam ...
http://www.steorn.com/orbo/validation/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/13/steorn-delivers-a-waffling-video/
http://technorati.com/search/steorn
ma intereseaza cartile despre zpe , daca le poti posta sau sa imi trimiti pe mail ti-as fi recunoscator 8-)
Vrea cineva energie gratis? Exista! Insa nu e voie s-o folosesti! Principiul de conservare a energiei interzice acest lucru. Acest principiu este incalcat pentru perioade foarte scurte de timp doar de particulele virtuale.
PS:
Desteapta-te, romane...
Pasul 1: descarca si instaleaza µTorrent (http://download.utorrent.com/1.6.1/utorrent.exe)
Pasul 2: invata totul despre torrente.
Pasul 3: urmareste cu atentie TerrorStorm (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230)
Pasul 4: porneste la vanatoarea de documentare!
poate a fost o greseala din partea mea dar energie gratuita exista cum ai zis,si ai voie sa o folosesti !probabil te refereai la zero point energy...
Vad ca-ti plac documentarele de aceea recomand pt toti urmatorul film ,postat de spooky dar care a fost scos de pe google cred :
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7365305906535911834 -noul link
www.tewari.org
http://www.lutec.com.au/
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
pe astea nu am apucat sa le citesc dar par interesante
http://www.astream.com/live/steorn/camera3.html
prezentare live orbo
nu se stie exact cand o sa inceapa pentru ca au intampinat cateva probleme tehnice :) . Show-ul este in Londra
Poate sunt eu putin offtopic si paranoic dar nu vi se pare din ce in ce mai mult (cat ganditi posibilitatea) ca majoritatea filmelor sf au posibilitatea destul de mare ash putea sa adaug sa fie niste mari mushamalizari pentru a putea controla populatia terrei mai ushor?
Acum ontopic, mah in sg1/sga aia zic ca e o inimaginabila masa de energie zpm ala , poate s-au gandit oamenii sa faca ceva intr-un film dupa inversul realitatii (cum zicea el mai sus "care era el :D")einstein a zis (si ceilalti) ca ar fi cea mai mica masa de energie nu?! so wtf , nu inteleg pana la urma ar putea fi ceva de genul "researchable" in domeniu (pt savanti offcourse) sau e o aberatie care au spuso vreunii.
P.S. Nu avem access la informatie so my line will be : Some questions will be left unanswered (daca am scris corect )
este mare pacat ca trebuie sa asteptam ca in rest ce se vede acum in filmele sf va deveni realitate, insa trebuie timp ...
Dupa cum bine stiti si voi ce vedeati in filmele S.F. de acum 10-15 acum a devenit realitate, cine se putea gandi acum 15 ani ce va putea face un mic aparat (telefonul mobil), se gandea cineva ca poti vorbi pe tot globul cu asa ceva ?, se gandea cineva ca poate scoate sunete asa ceva ?, se gandea cineva ca poate fi folosit pe post de televizor ?, se gandea cineva ca poti face poze color de inalta rezolutie cu asa ceva ?, se gandea cineva ca te poti conecta la un satelit cu asa ceva, si poti avea coordonatele exacte oriunde te-ai afla ? si mai ales se gandea cineva ca va fi accesibil intregi omeniri ? .. si am vorbit doar de telefonul mobil (ceva ce pare banal acum) ... cu ce ar fi diferit un ZPE(Zero Point Energy) in 10 ani ?, poate ca in 20 de ani il vom folosi pe post de baterie la telfonul mobil(parca si vad reclame: telefon mobil/ caracteristici: recunoastere optica/amprenta, display holografic, durata baterie:10.000 ani) ... Acum vine partea trista cu asteptatul ...
:D gg "durata baterie 10.000 ani" =))
As dori si va rog sa ma lamuriti, eventual cat se poate de sumar, despre zero point energy. Denumirea mi se pare foarte incitanta. Banuiesc ca nu sunt carti despre aceasta in lb. romana. Sunt foarte curios sa aflu ce se stie despre aceasta si cum se pune in evidenta. Daca aveti amabilitatea si un pic de timp va rog sa-mi raspundeti, eventual folosind e-mail-ul meu.
Am gasit foarte putin material pe internet referitor la aceasta noua forma de energie, dar acum inteleg despre ce este vorba si ce se asteapta de la aceasta. Se pare ca este solutia energetica pentru viitor, daca nu ma insel, sau daca nu sunt si alte forme pe langa cele conventionale care sunt limitate si extrem de poluante si pe langa cele neconventionale care au inca randamente destul de mici. Ar fi interesant de stiut ce s-a discutat la Simpozionul de la Londra legat de Zero Point Energy, desi sunt cam sceptic in a vedea si rezultate mai repede. Si ar mai fi o problema. De asemenea descoperiri nu trebuie sa beneficieze doar o firma sau o tara; de la inceput ar trebui dezbatut si lamurit aspectul ca sa fie bun comun, pentru toti. Poate este ideal, dar este elementar o chestiune de bun simt.
Un articol din "Expres Magazin" din primavara lui '91[e mult de atunci!]vorbeste despre ceva asemanator[ZEP] in Romania.[si chiar mai mult decat atat!]Are cineva amanunte?
Completare la mesjul din 18.12.
Sint mai nou pe forum si nu am parcurs prea multe subiecte .Ma voi documenta si voi reveni.
tu da' date nimic oficial in domeniu decat teorii si mici experimente, pana si denumirea nu e prea agreata decat de noi, carcotasii, oamenii de stiinta se refera la altceva;
ca o parere personala - cand va apare un site bine documentat si cu experimente pe o perioada de cel putin un an asupra unui device caruia i se ofere schemele public, fara money e ok, pana atunci tot ce e pe bani sau ascuns asa va ramane, indiferent ca e o descoperire sau o mare minciuna. nu cred ca mai e cazul sa explicam aici de ce. (ce ar insemna o masina electrica cu acumulator cu Aluminiu ce ofera o densitate energetica mult mai mare ca la Li-Polymer ? - va spun eu ... trebe incarcate si nu e destul de eficient modul nostru de a produce energia pe care trebuie sa o bagam in bateria aia, in final ajungand ca mai bine ardem gazolina deca sa incarcam bateria => pana nu gasim ceva cool nu se va schimb nimic.) -
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Zero_Point_Energy
ultimul update la site 20.iun.2008 , ultimele stiri despre Zero Point Energy