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[Xanadron]

Topic: CIA Report Confirms NSA Psychic Spy Program

http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=bekkum&action=display&thread=8213&page=1

An article released from the CIA's internal "Studies in Intelligence" reveals the existence of a National Security Agency paranormal program, which was previously reported based upon information provided by unnamed sources.

Un articol extras din documentul de uz intern CIA "Studiile privind serviciile de informatii" releva existentza unui program "paranormal" oficial al NSA, raportat si anterior de anumite surse care au dorit sa ramina anonime.
Restul - poate fi tradus aproximativ cu Mos Goagal :-D pt. cei interesati si nu prea anglofoni. ;)

A footnote found in an article written by Gerald K. Haines for the CIA's classified "Studies in Intelligence" confirms the existence of a rumored National Security Agency psychic research program.

Gerald K. Haines is the National Reconnaissance Office historian.

Previously, sources to STARpod.org, including one of the psychics who worked with the program following 9/11, identified the NSA as the successor to the now-declassified Defense Intelligence Agency program nick-named STAR GATE. The STAR GATE program was made public in 1995.

The footnote is found in the declassified CIA-published article called "CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90: A Die-Hard Issue." The article is available to read at the CIA's website.

Haines writes, "CIA also maintained Intelligence Community coordination with other agencies regarding their work in parapsychology, psychic phenomena, and 'remote viewing' experiments. In general, the Agency took a conservative scientific view of these unconventional scientific issues."

He then adds in the footnote, "There is a DIA Psychic Center and the NSA studies parapsychology, that branch of psychology that deals with the investigation of such psychic phenomena as clairvoyance, extrasensory perception, and telepathy."

The footnote also mentions possible CIA involvement when extraterrestrial aliens arrive here on Earth:

"The CIA reportedly is also a member of an Incident Response Team to investigate UFO landings, if one should occur."

"CIA este de asemenea parte dintr-o << Echipa de Raspuns la Incidente >> destinata investigarii aterizarilor de OZN-uri"

Curiously one of the sources, who provided information concerning the post-9/11 NSA psychic program to investigative author Gus Russo, claimed that some of the operations to remote view foreign intelligence targets had been blocked by "an unknown extraterrestrial source," suggesting the program involves more than psychic perceptions.

"Curios este faptul ca una din sursele care l-au informat pe investigatorul Gus Russo despre programul parapsihologic post- 11.09.2001 al NSA sustine ca unele operatii de Remote Viewing destinate clarviziunii legate de obiective straine au fost STOPATE de catre << o fortza extraterestra necunoscuta >>, sugerind astfel ca aceste operatiuni implicau ... mai mult decit << simple >> perceptii psihice paranormal-extrasenzoriale".

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http://starpod.org/viewpoint/1006191.htm

P.S. Un motiv in plus sa nu cred "informatiile"  :-P furnizate de, repet, in opinia mea dezinformatorul Dr. Greer apropo de "inocentza" unora ca Woolsey (fost sef CIA, "briefed" in anii '90 de catre Greer... cica) apropo de problematica OZN-ET-istica. :-D

[calator astral]

de acord: Dr Greer este un  dezinformator xanadron,într-adevar! Nu este obiceiul meu sa umblu prin cosurile de gunoaie (virtuale) în cautarea unor amanunte revelatoare, dar va propun o scurta interventie (corespondenta privata, discretie va rog) semnata Jim Giglio sa ma ierte moderatorii daca n-o traduc,din lipsa de timp, dar aici aproape toti sîntem poligloti:


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On May 9, Greer's "Disclosure" efforts came to fruition in a CSETI-sponsored show put on at the National Press Club. Some twenty alleged "insiders" came forward and told their stories; it was a pathetic farce. For the most part, these "witnesses" were retired low-level military personnel who provided accounts of their own personal UFO sightings while in the service.

But there was one witness who caught my attention and held it. This was a fellow named Mark McCandlish. He started by claiming that he had once seen vehicles, equipped with reverse-engineered UFO antigravity capability, levitating off the floor of an airplane hangar while an air show was going on outside (Somehow this story was supposed to make sense). He then proceeded to display a photograph of a UFO supposedly taken more than 30 years ago by an Air Force pilot from the cockpit of a C-47 in the vicinity of Provo, Utah.

I was dumbfounded when I saw this image; it's a proven fake, and has been known to be a fake for 34 years.  The image was investigated by the Colorado project as "Case 7" in the final report. For some reason, the image itself was not included in that report. But in 1995 the lead investigator on the case, Roy Craig, published a black-and-white print of the image in his memoir of his time on the project. I contacted Dr. Craig by e-mail about three years ago, and was able to obtain a copy of the original color slide. I scanned the image, and it can be seen at this temporary URL:
www.polaris.umuc.edu/~jgiglio2/major-y

The testimony of McCandlish, fully supported by Greer, is simply ludicrous. I repeat; the image he displayed is a fake and has been known to be a fake for 34 years. Yet Greer claims, based on this kind of silliness, to be embarked on a mission to influence U.S. space and energy policy, as well as international diplomacy, at the highest levels. Now perhaps Greer has evidence that the image in question is NOT a fake; if so, the time to have
presented that evidence was on May 9th 2001 at the "Disclosure" event, while McCandlish was waving the thing around in front of the cameras.

He didn't do so, which indicates either (1) that he's perfectly well aware that the image is a fake, and cynically believes that the audience he appeals to is made up of gullible fools who can be taken in by fabricated evidence, or (2) that he himself is massively under-informed on the issue he claims to be an expert on, and also knows absolutely nothing about how to vet a witness before that witness appears in a high-profile public forum.

Of course he might blame this blooper on poor staff work, but that's not much of an excuse. Greer brags endlessly about how his associates and consultants represent the highest levels of the intelligence and aerospace and scientific communities and how they come from deep inside the "black project" world. If those guys are actually to blame, then just how well-qualified are they? And wasn't Greer responsible for selecting them in the first place?

This is D.C., the most powerful city in the world, and Greer claims to working to influence the powers-that-be in this center of power, on the most important issues facing humanity. You don't get to be influential in this town, on those issues, with those movers and shakers, by putting on a clownish display featuring fabricated evidence, even if the clownisheness involves only a single piece of evidence (which it didn't).

BTW: Greer would probably claim, in response to the fact that the Colorado project exposed the Case 7 image as a fake, that the entire staff of the project was on the CIA payroll. He said that on the air a few years ago, when I called a local talk show he was appearing on, as if that would totally discredit all their work. I'd be curious to know what his evidence for that claim might be; not even the most ardent Colorado project critics (at least not the serious ones) would make such a sweeping claim."

[CHIP]

Cum Se Spala Creierul Unei NATIUNI - Interviu luat de Edward Griffin lui Yuri Bezmenov manolescubd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE2M0Pr0m_I&feature=player_embedded

[abyss]

Interesant video CHIP. La noi cred ca normalizarea a inceput in Dec. 1989 si observ ca intr-adevar e pe termen nelimitat. Poate @Ronin avea cu siguranta dreptate cand sugera ca pe guvernantii nostrii ii poti vindeca doar cu glontul.

[Nox]

Cum Se Spala Creierul Unei NATIUNI - Interviu luat de Edward Griffin lui Yuri Bezmenov manolescubd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE2M0Pr0m_I&feature=player_embedded

Dacã aplicãm cele spuse în clipul de mai sus la cazul fenomenului OZN în ce etapã ne aflãm? 1. Demoralizarea, 2. Destabilizarea, 3. Criza sau 4. Normalizarea?

[abyss]

4, din 89´ ....

[abyss]

de acord: Dr Greer este un  dezinformator xanadron,într-adevar! Nu este obiceiul meu sa umblu prin cosurile de gunoaie (virtuale) în cautarea unor amanunte revelatoare, dar va propun o scurta interventie (corespondenta privata, discretie va rog) semnata Jim Giglio sa ma ierte moderatorii daca n-o traduc,din lipsa de timp, dar aici aproape toti sîntem poligloti:


==============================================================

On May 9, Greer's "Disclosure" efforts came to fruition in a CSETI-sponsored show put on at the National Press Club. Some twenty alleged "insiders" came forward and told their stories; it was a pathetic farce. For the most part, these "witnesses" were retired low-level military personnel who provided accounts of their own personal UFO sightings while in the service.

But there was one witness who caught my attention and held it. This was a fellow named Mark McCandlish. He started by claiming that he had once seen vehicles, equipped with reverse-engineered UFO antigravity capability, levitating off the floor of an airplane hangar while an air show was going on outside (Somehow this story was supposed to make sense). He then proceeded to display a photograph of a UFO supposedly taken more than 30 years ago by an Air Force pilot from the cockpit of a C-47 in the vicinity of Provo, Utah.

I was dumbfounded when I saw this image; it's a proven fake, and has been known to be a fake for 34 years.  The image was investigated by the Colorado project as "Case 7" in the final report. For some reason, the image itself was not included in that report. But in 1995 the lead investigator on the case, Roy Craig, published a black-and-white print of the image in his memoir of his time on the project. I contacted Dr. Craig by e-mail about three years ago, and was able to obtain a copy of the original color slide. I scanned the image, and it can be seen at this temporary URL:
www.polaris.umuc.edu/~jgiglio2/major-y

The testimony of McCandlish, fully supported by Greer, is simply ludicrous. I repeat; the image he displayed is a fake and has been known to be a fake for 34 years. Yet Greer claims, based on this kind of silliness, to be embarked on a mission to influence U.S. space and energy policy, as well as international diplomacy, at the highest levels. Now perhaps Greer has evidence that the image in question is NOT a fake; if so, the time to have
presented that evidence was on May 9th 2001 at the "Disclosure" event, while McCandlish was waving the thing around in front of the cameras.

He didn't do so, which indicates either (1) that he's perfectly well aware that the image is a fake, and cynically believes that the audience he appeals to is made up of gullible fools who can be taken in by fabricated evidence, or (2) that he himself is massively under-informed on the issue he claims to be an expert on, and also knows absolutely nothing about how to vet a witness before that witness appears in a high-profile public forum.

Of course he might blame this blooper on poor staff work, but that's not much of an excuse. Greer brags endlessly about how his associates and consultants represent the highest levels of the intelligence and aerospace and scientific communities and how they come from deep inside the "black project" world. If those guys are actually to blame, then just how well-qualified are they? And wasn't Greer responsible for selecting them in the first place?

This is D.C., the most powerful city in the world, and Greer claims to working to influence the powers-that-be in this center of power, on the most important issues facing humanity. You don't get to be influential in this town, on those issues, with those movers and shakers, by putting on a clownish display featuring fabricated evidence, even if the clownisheness involves only a single piece of evidence (which it didn't).

BTW: Greer would probably claim, in response to the fact that the Colorado project exposed the Case 7 image as a fake, that the entire staff of the project was on the CIA payroll. He said that on the air a few years ago, when I called a local talk show he was appearing on, as if that would totally discredit all their work. I'd be curious to know what his evidence for that claim might be; not even the most ardent Colorado project critics (at least not the serious ones) would make such a sweeping claim."

Calatorule, nu te-ai prins... cand colegul Xanadron il numeste pe SG dezimformator, cu un ochi rade si cu unul plange  :wink:

   
ARV - Alien Reproduction Vehicle
ARV Video:
http://www.area51et.com/category/alien-reproduction-vehicle/

Un video interesant ce merita aratat adevaratilor sceptici nu insa si pseudoscepticilor.

[Nox]

4, din 89´ ....

Parcã suntem la LOTO.

Fenomenul OZN nu e dureazã din '89... ºi nu mã refer la România ci la întreaga comunitate mondialã.

[romulus]

Dr Greer este un  dezinformator

O fi si dezinformator , cine stie, dar apropo  de S. Greer, va expun aici o impresie destul de puternica pe care o am atunci cand ii vad fata: chiar de prima data cand l-am vazut, i-am asociat imaginea/figura cu cea a unui  reptilian.
De unde pana unde, habar n-am , dar asta este senzatia, ca am in fata un alien / reptilian!
Ar fi interesant daca vreunul dintre voi a mai avut sentimentul asta ?  Priviti-l atent, mai ales cand rade/zambeste , gura i se intinde pana aproape de urechi, de zici ca e sarpele kaa din Cartea junglei  :-D!!
Am zis !

[abyss]

Nox ai dreptate, eram complet neatent când am rãspuns completând la loto numerele. Scuze!
romulus sã ºtii cã mulþi în occident ºi nu numai îl asociazã pe SG cu un alien din cauza mutrei sale ciudate. Aºa ºi bãsescu are o mutra de scuipat uscat.... Dar conteazã ce spune omul nu cum aratã, iar dacã dezinformeazã ori nu informeazã meritã discutat. Cine începe?

[Xanadron]

Nox ai dreptate, eram complet neatent când am rãspuns completând la loto numerele. Scuze!
romulus sã ºtii cã mulþi în occident ºi nu numai îl asociazã pe SG cu un alien din cauza mutrei sale ciudate. Aºa ºi bãsescu are o mutra de scuipat uscat.... Dar conteazã ce spune omul nu cum aratã, iar dacã dezinformeazã ori nu informeazã meritã discutat. Cine începe?

8-) Hehehe, cred ca locul cel mai potrivit pentru continuarea interesantei discutii apropo de credibilitatea dr. Greer ramine topicul asta:

http://www.rufon.org/forum/index.php/topic,2810.0.html

Nu de alta, dar atit remarca (fiziognomica :roll: - v. impresia "reptoida") a stimatului coforumist Romulus, cit si a ta, draga colega @biss (v. "ochiul care ride, linga ala care plinge") merita o revenire si din partea mea.
Fiindca, intr-adevar, pozitia mea de "Toma scepticul" e cumva nuantzata.

[romulus]

Dar conteazã ce spune omul nu cum aratã, iar dacã dezinformeazã ori nu informeazã meritã discutat.

Referitor la ceea ce a facut dr. Greer, adica stradania sa cu ocazia proiectului Disclosure , si  urmatoarele , toata admiratia mea!
Pentru unul care nu a organizat in viata lui nici o masa la carciuma, efortul lui si  al celor care l-au ajutat a fost considerabil si de apreciat/admirat!
Inchipuiti-va numai : sa aduci atati oameni - si nu de orice fel - ofiteri din servicii, militari, si sa-i pui sa "dea din ei" nu-i la indemana oricui, cand oamenii aceia stiu ca-si pot pune in joc siguranta, sanatatea, viata lor si a familiilor lor!
Asa, pentru comparatie - fara legatura directa cu subiectul - va dau un flavor:  io ma straduiesc de vreo saptamana sa strang semnaturi de la cetateni  pentru o motiune  care  va fi introdusa de un partid in curand in Parlament si multi - chiar dintre apropiatii mei imi pun o mie de intrebari :" da' daca ajunge tabelu' la Basescu ori la servicii?? da' daca se stie la serviciu meu  ca io am semnat, nu ma da afara  ?? dar daca ....."
Si asta pentru un rahat de semnatura care practic nu te angajeaza juridic/faptic ori cum vrei sa-i mai zici , deloc ! D'apoi sa-i fi adus pe unii sa spuna ca au vazut alieni si nave ale lor !!! Mama maiculita ....
Am zis !

[Quicksilver]

Referitor la ceea ce a facut dr. Greer, adica stradania sa cu ocazia proiectului Disclosure , si  urmatoarele , toata admiratia mea!
Pentru unul care nu a organizat in viata lui nici o masa la carciuma, efortul lui si  al celor care l-au ajutat a fost considerabil si de apreciat/admirat!
Inchipuiti-va numai : sa aduci atati oameni - si nu de orice fel - ofiteri din servicii, militari, si sa-i pui sa "dea din ei" nu-i la indemana oricui, cand oamenii aceia stiu ca-si pot pune in joc siguranta, sanatatea, viata lor si a familiilor lor!
Asa, pentru comparatie - fara legatura directa cu subiectul - va dau un flavor:  io ma straduiesc de vreo saptamana sa strang semnaturi de la cetateni  pentru o motiune  care  va fi introdusa de un partid in curand in Parlament si multi - chiar dintre apropiatii mei imi pun o mie de intrebari :" da' daca ajunge tabelu' la Basescu ori la servicii?? da' daca se stie la serviciu meu  ca io am semnat, nu ma da afara  ?? dar daca ....."
Si asta pentru un rahat de semnatura care practic nu te angajeaza juridic/faptic ori cum vrei sa-i mai zici , deloc ! D'apoi sa-i fi adus pe unii sa spuna ca au vazut alieni si nave ale lor !!! Mama maiculita ....
Am zis !

SUBSCRIU! Mai bine zis decat atat nu cred ca se poate ... Unde semnez?

[Xanadron]

De data asta, NU subscriu !!! :D (desi in general sint de acord cu ideile stimatului coforumist romulus).
Serios acum, argumentele sint expuse (si mai urmeaza...) pe topicul dedicat Dr.Greer - caruia nu i-am negat insa vreodata nici inteligentza speculativa (in sensul pozitiv al expresiei), nici capacitatea organizatorica de exceptie.
In conexiune directa cu numitele-i calitati rezulta de fapt si valorificarea eficienta a oportunitatilor oferite de diversele (si nu intotdeauna transparentele 8-)) surse de finantzare pentru dezvoltarea vastului cimp al activitatilor sale (CSETI).
Finantzare care, daca ar fi disponibila (ad absurdum) si unor forumisti din zona asta, sint convins ca le-ar permite ceva mai mult decit organizarea unor mese-ntinse !!! :lol:

P.S. (ca sa fiu macar un pic ontopic si sa ramin cu postarea nestearsa):  :-D
Psihotronica nu doar ca va fi "razboiul viitorului", dar este si al prezentului, ba chiar a fost folosita intensiv si-n unele razboaie ale trecutului imemorial.

[calator astral]

Calatorule, nu te-ai prins... cand colegul Xanadron il numeste pe SG dezimformator, cu un ochi rade si cu unul plange  :wink:

   
ARV - Alien Reproduction Vehicle
ARV Video:
http://www.area51et.com/category/alien-reproduction-vehicle/

Un video interesant ce merita aratat adevaratilor sceptici nu insa si pseudoscepticilor.

foarte foarte instructiv, biss... :-o
schema ozeneului e cît se poate de credibila.