Legat de "disparitia dacilor" si ce ar fi putut face "zalmoxienii", pai putem specula destul daca ne uitam la niste chestii.
De ex imparatul roman Galerius, fiul unei dacite de la nord de Dunare si a unui traco-dac de la sud de Dunare, ajuns din cioban soldat si apoi imparat.
http://people.ucalgary.ca/~vandersp/Courses/texts/lactant/lactpers.html<< The mother of Galerius, a woman exceedingly superstitious, was a votary of the gods of the mountains. >>
<< Whatever, by the laws of war, conquerors had done to the conquered, the like did this man presume to perpetrate against Romans and the subjects of Rome, because his forefathers had been made liable to a like tax imposed by the victorious Trajan, as a penalty on the Dacians for their frequent rebellions. >>
<< He was aware of his danger, and allowed his soldiers to disperse themselves, and to plunder and destroy far and wide, that, if there were any pursuers, they might be deprived of all means of subsistence in a mined country. So the parts of Italy through which that pestilent band took its course were wasted, all things pillaged, matrons forced, virgins violated, parents and husbands compelled by torture to disclose where they had concealed their goods, and their wives and daughters; flocks and herds of cattle were driven off like spoils taken from barbarians. And thus did he, once a Roman emperor, but now the ravager of Italy, retire into his own territories, after having afflicted all men indiscriminately with the calamities of war. Long ago, indeed, and at the very time of his obtaining sovereign power, he had avowed himself the enemy of the Roman name; and he proposed that the empire should be called, not the Roman, but the Dacian empire. >>
Tradus pe scurt, mama lui Galerius se ruga unor "zei" ai muntilor (deci undeva in Carpati, ea fiind de la nord de Dunare, cred ca de undeva de prin Oltenia de azi), iar fiul ei, care vroia sa schimbe chiar numele imperiului din roman in dac, s-a razbunat din greu pe romani pentru suferintele pricinuite stramosilor sai daci, tratand Italia ca pe o zona cucerita iar pe cetatenii romani ca pe o populatie cucerita in urma unui razboi.
Am putea specula (mai ales daca ne lasam un pic dusi de valu supranatural hehe) ca Galerius a fost influentat (de fapt asta nici macar nu e speculatie, e un fapt) de mama sa, care la randul ei, fiind o femeie extrem de superstitioasa, ar fi fost influentata de "zeii muntilor" la care se ruga ea.
Iar pe lantul asta a venit razbunarea "nemuritorilor" (celor ce stiu sa se faca nemuritori, cum bine cita maestrul Xanadron din Eliade), data "cu manta" cum se zice, la momentul potrivit, dupa ce si-au revenit si s-au pregatit un pic dupa atacul din timpul lui Traian.
Care atac roman ar fi putut fi sprijinit si intarit la randul lui de ceva forte supranaturale
, pe Columna apare insasi Jupiter (Zeus) dintre nori, aruncand cu fulgere in armata dacilor intr-un moment greu pentru romani, in mijlocul bataliei de la Tapae.
Putem specula si mai departe, cu gotii (numiti interschimbabil si geti la vremea aia, e o controversa cat de de geti/daci, germanici sau ce altceva ar fi fost) care au intrat pana la urma in Roma, si cu un alt trib dacic, costobocii, care au patruns hat pana in Grecia la un moment dat, unde ar fi distrus templul de la Eleusis (ala cu misterele)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesterion<< A great hall in Eleusis, Telesterion ("Initiation Hall" from Gr. τελείω, to complete, to fulfill, to consecrate, to initiate) was one of the primary centers of the Eleusinian Mysteries. Devoted to Demeter and Persephone, these initiation ceremonies were the most sacred and ancient of all the religious rites celebrated in Greece.[1] >>
<< In AD 170, during the rule of Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius, an ancient tribe called the Costoboci launched an invasion of Roman territory south of the Danube, entering Thracia and ravaging the provinces of Macedonia and Achaea (Greece). The Costoboci reached as far south as Eleusis, where they destroyed the Telesterion. The emperor responded by despatching general Vehilius Gratus Iulianus to Greece with emergency reinforcements, who eventually defeated the Costoboci. Marcus Aurelius then had the Telesterion rebuilt.
In AD 396, the forces of Alaric the Visigoth invaded the Eastern Roman Empire and ravaged Attica, destroying the Telesterion, which was never to be rebuilt.>>
Se pare ca cineva de pe aici de la nord de Dunare a vrut neaparat sa termine cu "misterele de la Eleusis" si cu Telesterionu ala (marea sala unde se petreceau initierile alea misterioase)
Na ca m-am cam departat de subiectu Culianu, care pare sa fi ramas (chiar si pentru niste super-detectivi rufonisti hehe) cam la fel de misterios (dpdv al mobilului asasinarii).
Desi zic eu, Eliade ar fi fost pe ici pe colo chiar mai tare decat Culianu in descifrarea anumitor lucruri, atata doar ca a stiut mai bine cum sa-si aranjeze "ploile" si sa se strecoare printre diferite jaloane si obstacole (desi a fost si el atins la un moment dat de niste critici si atacuri psihologice si de imagine).
P.S. - ca tot vorbiram de dacii nemuritori si de templul ala de la Eleusis de l-au pus jos pana la urma. Misterele de acolo aveau legatura cu zeitele Demeter si Persephona
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demeter<< Though Demeter is often described simply as the goddess of the harvest, she presided also over the sacred law, and the cycle of life and death. She and her daughter Persephone were the central figures of the Eleusinian Mysteries that predated the Olympian pantheon. >>
<< In Greek mythology, Persephone (/pəˈsɛfəni/, per-SEH-fə-nee; Greek: Περσεφόνη), also called Kore or Cora (/ˈkɔəriː/; "the maiden"),[n 1] is the daughter of Zeus and the harvest goddess Demeter, and is the queen of the underworld. Homer describes her as the formidable, venerable majestic princess of the underworld, who carries into effect the curses of men upon the souls of the dead. Persephone was abducted by Hades, the god-king of the underworld.[1] >>
Demeter stapanea, in credintele si mitologia greaca (inca dinainte de aparitia zeilor din Olimp), peste legile sacre si ciclurile vietii si mortii, iar fiica ei, Persefona, era regina "lumii de dincolo" din mitologia greaca, si sotia lui Hades (zeul/regele lumii "de jos", al infernului cum s-ar zice).
Interesant ca getii/dacii pare sa nu fi avut conceptul aproape universal de lume de dincolo impartita in rai si iad, iar unele din aceste credinte ale lor s-au pastrat mai mult sau mai putin in credintele populare romanesti
Subiect: Detectivi din spatele tastaturii (Citit de 235198 ori)