Foarte interesant subiectul, foarte interesanta discutia voastra. Pun o intrebare la care poate ma va lamuri cineva :
Din multitudinea de reprezentari, desene, schite ale "stupa" care este functionala si care este reprezentativ-decorativa ? Pentru ca mi se pare o munca in plus sa diseci o "stupa" reprezentativ-decorativa, care arata metaforic ce forte constituie fenomenul, care este traseul si orientarea acelor forte si evolutia fenomenului dincolo de privirile profanului.
- In multe imagini cu "stupa" se pot defini bobine si condensatori, deci o componenta electrostatica si una magnetica (apropiindu-ne de viziunea lui Tesla care nu amesteca fortele naturii in forma variantei actuale - "electromagnetice").
- Care dintre imagini/schite vi se par functionale, care sunt reproduceri ale celor care si-au pierdut cunoasterea si pot doar sa imite originalul si care vi se par originale/functionale ? Cred ca numai dupa ce raspundem la aceasta intrebare putem sa incepem sa facem speculatii, masuratori, putem emite ipoteze.
Altfel ne ocupam de opere de arta de la care avem asteptari stiintifice...
Foarte buna intrebarea.
Deocamdata adun date pentru a raspunde la intrebarile tale care btw sunt si ale mele.
Prin urmare ce voi posta o vreme aici sunt doar fragmente din puzzle si nu comentarii pe subiect. Cine doreste poate contribui.
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Note de lucru:
Ce se acumuleaza catre superior/ ceea ce vine tathā-āgata, ceea ce s-a dus tathā-gata.
http://architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-171197 Figure on JISOA., Vol IV/1 pp. 36
http://architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-170630http://www.kalachakranet.org/mandala_kalachakra.html#https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tath%C4%81gatahttp://architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-170630 =>Stūpa: no description of the component parts is given: they are sopāna, aṇḍa, medhi or garbha harmikā, yaṣṭi, chattrāvali, varṣa-sthāla or aṃṛta-kalaśa. There should be mention of the synonym dāgaba (dhātu-garbha), and of eḍūka and jāluka by which names Buddhist relic shrines are referred to in the Mahābhārata (3, 190, 65 and 67). The detailed description of a stūpa in the Divyāvadāna, p. 244, summarised by Foucher’ L’Art gréco-bouddhique,.. I, p. 96, and the detailed account of the building of a stūps in Mahāvaṁsa, Chs. XXVIII, seq. should be referred to; also the full account in Parker, Ancient Ceylon. The letter quotes a Sanskritic-Pali text defining the shapes and proportions of dāgabas, from the Waiddyānta-pota (Or Vājayantaya) a śilpa-śāstra; well known in Ceylon, but not mentioned in the Dictionary. The Avadāna Śataka mentions
three kinds of stūpas-gandhastūpa, keśanakhastūpa, and stūpa—the latter being the regular
dhātu-stūpa for funerary relics. The Dhammapada Atthakathā, XXI, 1-290, H.O.S., Vol. 30, p. 175, has a thūpa built over the body of a Brahman’s son who had become a Buddhist monk. Were stūpas ever erected by others than Buddhists or Jainas? In Kāśyapa’s Conversion at Sāñcī (east gate, left pillar, inner face, third panel) a railed stūpa forms part of the Jaṭila ārāma: so also at Amarāvatī, Fergusson, Tree and Serpent Worship, P1. LXXXVI.
=>Harmya: ramyaṁ harmyam, a beautiful palace, Vikrama Carita (Edgerton, text and transl. in H.O.S. 26, p. 258, and 27, p. 239) has the following parts: mūlapratiṣṭhāna, basement; bhitti-stambha-dvāratoraṇa, walls, pillars, doorways and arches; śālabhaṁjikā, statues; prāṅgaṇa, courts; kapāṭa, folding doors; parigha, door-bars;4 valabhi, roofs; viṭaṅka, cornices; nāga-danta, pegs; mattavāraṇa, turrets; gavākṣa, ox-eye windows; sopāna, stairs; nandyāvartādi-gṛha, pavilions (? ) (see Dictionary, s.v.).
Harmikā, the little equare structure on the top of a stūpa. (Divyuvadāna) . A cross reference to rāja-harmya should be given in the Dictionary.
Harmya, dwelling, Atharva Veda, XVIII, 4, 55; RV. I, 121, 1, I, 166, 4, VII, 56, 16, etc.
Savitāna-harmya, Raghuvaṁsa, XIX, 39, “place with an awning”; or perhaps vitāna=modern chajja.
Stupa in studiu : Kalachakra Stupa + Kalachakra Mandalahttp://www.kalachakranet.org/mandala_kalachakra.html#https://www.google.ro/search?q=stupa++mandala&espv=2&biw=828&bih=877&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK5ZC1m7jKAhXCZg8KHdUHDHoQsAQIHA#imgrc=ySP50yEmYSRx8M%3Ahttp://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/resources/buddhistIconography.phphttp://www.kalacakra.org/mandala/maha_man.htm
https://www.google.ro/search?q=BEN+BROWNE&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvqp2py6_MAhWGlCwKHQajDb8Q_AUIBygB&biw=706&bih=974&dpr=0.9#tbm=isch&q=BEN+BROWNE+cymatics+2&imgrc=Zh1Lr9ldb3GanM%3Ahttp://www.kalacakra.org/mandala/domchen.htm
https://www.google.ro/search?q=tsok+dak+langpo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXjs6TorjKAhVE-g4KHQxEA4MQ_AUIBygB&biw=1035&bih=877#imgrc=3dSN25tIKBPiVM%3AContents of Stupa
In front of the Tree of Life stands the wheel “tsok dak langpo”, as illustrated below. It is an emanation of the great being of compassion Avalokiteshvra and the source of all wealth.
This wheel will be made of red copper and will be 2.5 feet wide.
http://www.bhutanworldpeace.org/stupa/?page_id=127&lang=en